An Examination of General Hux, Predictions for His Future in the Star Wars Franchise, and Possible Connections to Rogue One and the Knights of Ren.
[The following essay is a compilation of free-thought collaborative crazy mind-melds of my good friend Cosgrove and myself. Now I submit it to you for your own thoughts and discussions. None of these theories should be taken as statement or truth, it is all mere CONJECTURE (and it gets pretty fucking wild, but I have to share it or I will explode). Readers may notice that sometimes ideas found within are developed not from what information we have been given, but by what has been omitted, as I have found that a lack of information is more telling than what we are told. Please, we are not an authority on Star Wars and I fully admit some of this is a seriously long shot. It's just a lot of random thoughts that bizarrely connected and became This Mess. Now, ONWARD!]
General Hux of the First Order is arguably the most vicious and deadliest villain in Star Wars history. He wiped out five planets in a single shot. Never has there been so great a loss of life in Star Wars history. General Hux is the commander of Starkiller base and co-commander of The Finalizer. He commands legions of First Order troops, and is the overseer of the Stormtrooper training program—yet, he has been largely ignored by the media and by fans alike.
Disney has pushed and pushed and pushed the image of Kylo Ren and Captain Phasma as the lead villains of the new movie. This is reasonable marketing—the two both sport forboding masks and have an aura of evil to their looks. They are the literal poster children for displaying the scariness of the Dark Side. But while Kylo Ren is most DEFINITELY the main object of villainy for The Force Awakens, Phasma is a incredibly minor character who shows up to look intimidating, but ultimately is a pushover. (Sorry Phasma fans, but she did not perform well on Starkiller, and coercion is no excuse for betrayal in the First Order.) Compared to General Hux, Phasma is a non-entity. Hux is practically nowhere in sight in Disney’s marketing.
So how is all this relevant? Maybe Disney just didn’t think an angry ginger in an overcoat was the best visual expression of evil it could muster. Many fans who saw the movie remember his insanely passionate and downright ridiculous snarling speech and the destruction of the Hosnian System, but somehow most forgot to consider the man behind it all. Maybe they were too distracted by his silly little hat and crazy eyes to consider his actual value as a character? Despite the lack of attention before and during the film, fans have slowly begun to question his importance since it’s release—and his popularity is growing every day.
So how does General Hux connect to and affect the rest of the Star Wars franchise? Let’s consider the following:
Postulate 1: Hux is the True Villain of the new Trilogy.
At first glance, General Hux seems like the new Grand Moff Tarkin of the franchise, and seeing as Grand Moff Tarkin explodes with the Death Star in A New Hope, it’s easy to forget that there might be something more to Hux than being our new throwaway villain. But Hux does not go down with his base, and the differences from Tarkin don’t end there: Whereas Tarkin and Darth Vader mostly got along, Hux and Kylo Ren detest each other. Where Vader occasionally chastises Tarkin for his mistakes, Hux is typically the one calling out Kylo Ren’s poor decision making. Ultimately, the defeat of Starkiller is not the result of Hux’s poor planning—but by the weakness of Phasma, miscalculations of Ren, and paranoia Supreme Leader Snoke.
Here is what we know about Hux:
Prediction: Hux will attempt to overthrow Supreme Leader Snoke. He may even do it through Kylo Ren.
Hux is very young for the rank of General. (34 y/o) He is highly organized, fanatically loyal to the First Order. Hux doesn’t think much of Kylo Ren or Snoke’s devotion to the Force, although he recognizes and respects the power it grants them. He is quick-witted, self-sure, and the very model of discipline. He is described by actor Domnhall Gleeson as a character who never sleeps. Hux is always working, going over details with a fine toothed comb. His is a character who is thinking of the end game at all times, and as The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary states, he believes that it is a matter of destiny that he be given a chance to sit on the throne of the galaxy. Strong words, which we will come back to later.
One of the most striking things about General Hux is that he does NOT fear Kylo Ren. Hux has no problem arguing with Ren or criticizing his decisions. Book!Hux is shown to have little enthusiasm for chasing the Map to Luke Skywalker, and is barely convinced it even exists, but he complies because he is ordered to do so. He informs Kylo Ren that his loyalty is to the First Order (note he does not refer to the Supreme Leader in his claims of loyalty), and he won’t let Ren’s personal spiritual nonsense interfere with his devotion to it’s cause.
Hux is already in a position for extreme power. As far as we know, he only answers to Snoke, and perhaps is only occasionally forced to acquiesce to Kylo Ren’s orders as well. But largely, he is in command. The only think Hux seems to lack, is Force ability. But does this matter? His distaste for Force pursuits are abundantly clear. It stands to reason that his father may have instilled this lack of faith in the Force, seeing as Brendol has watched Jedi and Sith alike rise and fall in their arrogance. I don’t doubt that Hux believes Force users to be foolish and too engrossed in their spiritual and personal endeavors to remain objective enough to rule the galaxy.
Snoke's order to destroy the Ileenium system proved to be a major factor in the destruction of Starkiller base. If he had listened to Hux's suggestion to wait a few hours for an exact location and to destroy ONLY the Resistance base, it's likely that the Resistance would have been crushed. Snoke’s decision was driven by paranoia the the Resistance already had the map to Skywalker and would make copies. If they had not begun to charge the weapon, the Resistance would not have become desperate and acted so fiercely to destroy the base. This, coupled with Kylo Ren's decision to capture Rey instead of the droid--subsequently leading Finn to aid the Resistance so he could get a chance to rescue her--is truly what destroyed Starkiller. Hux will only see poor planning and incompetence on behalf of those who should know better. Their actions can only serve to reinforce Hux's belief that HE alone should be in charge.
But how? Can a non-force user really be the major villain in a Star Wars Trilogy? I think yes, and the Rogue One movie may actually be intended to set a precedent with it’s introduction to who we believe to be a Grand Admiral. In Legends, Grand Admirals were NOT known for Force sensitivity, but rather for their tactical brilliance—much like General Hux. I can fully see Hux executing some sort of ‘Xanatos Gambit’, where Hux might even convince Kylo Ren to take over as Supreme Leader (perhaps killing Snoke as the final act of his training?) In the end, no matter how much Kylo Ren thinks he is in charge, Hux will come out on top.
There is also the curious case of the Kyber crystals…
Postulate 2: The development of Kyber Crystal weapons and genetic research will factor greatly into the plot.
We believe the use of Kyber crystals in the First Order weapons is going to play a key role in Hux's future and the Star Wars Saga as a whole. Hux's distrust of the Force and Force Users highlights an ongoing theme of Star Wars: the fight between the light side and the dark side. Including the prequels, the story has always been about this theme. and each time it has come down to Jedi or Sith fucking things up. Now, why would Hux allow a Force user to stay in charge? Surely he has looked at the history of the Empire and connected the dots. Powerful Force users suffer from an ingrained sense of hubris--they tend to believe that they are right, and that they are destined for greatness on both a military might and spiritual superiority. There is too many absolutes. Kylo Ren's story suggests that there is a balance in his beliefs, but this is left to speculation, and Hux would not know anything about this.
The Empire was known to be researching the use of Kyber crystals before it’s collapse, and the Death Star was known to have kyber crystals used in it’s focusing lenses. The First Order has furthered this research over the years and begun using them more commonly, such as in the ventral cannons on The Finalizer. Kyber crystal technology would explain how Starkiller was able to harness the power of a sun, and direct its energy through sub hyperspace to destroy the Hosnian System almost instantly. (Important to note that the planet for Starkiller Base was chosen because was rich in crystals that would stand up to this power—the books do not specify KYBER crystals, but it’s worth noting.) Also in the novel, the resistance and even Finn do not know how this second feat was accomplished.
From where I’m standing, it looks to me like the First Order is not just developing more powerful weapons, but Force weapons. What happens when you no longer need a Jedi or a Sith or anything in between to wield the power of the force? The average people will rise up. And Hux no doubt would overthrow Snoke and Kylo Ren if he has the technology. Powerful Force imbued weaponry allows NON-force users to have an advantage. If the average Joe can use what we could argue is a Force weapon, there is little need for Force Users in the galaxy. In short: Hux does not want or need a Force user to be in charge.
Notice the Stormtroopers’ Riot Gear (displayed by the now famous FN-2199). It is capable of blocking a light saber’s plasma blade. While such weapons existed back during the Clone Wars, it was never a big factor in Stormtrooper armor or weapons until now. What caused the allegedly non-lethal riot gear to be upgraded so? Was it possibly overseen by none other than General Hux, who spends hours upon hours tweaking his beloved Stormtrooper program to perfection? Is this perhaps a secret arms race to prepare an army against light saber wielding Force users? This is pure speculation, but it certainly would not hurt the General’s chances at overthrowing Snoke’s rule.
Observations related to the Death Star’s use of kyber crystals:
The Death Star was massive. It might not have been the size of Starkiller, but it was still the size of a moon and could house thousands of troops and contained massive firepower besides its main cannon. Seeing as it also used kyber crystal technology, it would not be completely outrageous to believed that it also had it’s own research facilities. We will likely be seeing much more of the Death Star in the upcoming Rogue One film, and the trailer has opened up a whole new can of speculation.
One item of note in the trailer is the short clip of a hooded figure entering a chamber with what looks to be a large tank, with the Emperor’s Guard standing by. Most have speculated that this is a Bacta tank and that the hooded figure may be Palpatine or even Snoke. What really interests US is that the guards seem to be watching over the TANK and not the figure entering the room.
Assume for the sake of argument that the tank is not a bacta tank. It is a cold storage unit. Notice the condensation in the air around it. It looks like something is being stored. Why would the Emperor’s guards need to guard a laboratory project?
Theory: The tank in question contains the Emperor’s clones.
Cloning is a central theme in the Star Wars saga. We’ve seen the Clone Wars. And we have seen clones of Emperor Palpatine before in Legends. While Legends is no longer canon to the movies, the writers most certainly draw from old themes and characters. It is not impossible that clones the will factor into the new movies as well—and they have already been mentioned.
If the Death Star did indeed contain clones, it is entirely possible that they were moved to a new location prior to it’s destruction. The Battle of Jakku was a final stand of the remaining forces of the Empire—defending a secret research facility. Could THIS have been a safe house for the Emperor’s clones? Before the Battle of Jakku, most people thought the planet was completely outside the conflict of the Galactic Civil War—a perfect location to hide important secrets.There might very well be Emperor’s clones stored somewhere. Perhaps some escaped Jakku, maybe they didn’t. Maybe they were never there. But why would a research lab figure so highly on the Empire’s list of places to protect? Was it simply their research on kyber crystal technology?
But maybe there is an even more direct connection to The Force Awakens. If there were in fact laboratories with clones on the Death Star, it may not be just a coincidence that General Hux was born at the time of the battle of Yavin.
Postulate 3: Hux is a clone/descendant of Emperor Palpatine
The first time I saw this postulated was on Tumblr. It was a weak but intriguing theory based mostly around two concepts:
I thought that is was a cool idea at the time, but I didn’t give it much serious thought until my friend and I noticed the timing of General Hux’s birth in relation to the Death Star’s destruction and our Clone theory. It’s possible that baby clones were rescued, and one could have found himself under the care of Commandant Brendol Hux, whether by purpose or by chance.
This theory admittedly has a LOT of holes in it, but for the sake of argument, I will examine each one:
1) Hux’s first name: ?????
Why don’t we have a first name? One point against this whole theory is that Pablo Hidalgo already responded to a Tweet that Hux’s name was not a potential spoiler, it had simply not been solidified at the time of the movie’s final script or by the time of the Visual Dictionary’s publishing.
Ok, that is reasonable. But honestly, do we trust this guy? This is the man who Tweeted about Millicent the cat and her litter box. Most recently, J.J. Abrams graced us with Rey-gate, telling a young fan that Rey’s parents have not been seen in The Force Awakens. Pablo Hidalgo seemed to be on board with this—until Abrams retracted his statement, possibly resulting from a reprimand from Disney execs. I find a certain wisdom in the X-File’s opening credits: Trust No One .
If there is any deception here, perhaps Hux’s first name will maybe be Sheev (Palpatines first name in Legends) or smoother reference to the late Sith Lord. I doubt that it would be that obvious, but it’s worth thinking about.
2) Hux’s father is Brendol Hux.
Well, sure. We know that Brendol raised the kid, more or less. But let us suppose the following. We don’t know Hux’s first name, because Hux has no first name. If Hux was a clone, it is entirely possible that Hux is simply a name taken from the man assigned to raise him. Brendol Hux wasn’t a nice guy. He is known for creating a secret society during his time as an instructor at the Academy on Arkanis called the Commandants Cadets. These cadets received preferential treatment, and induction to it required one to kill a fellow cadet while making it look accidental.
We get most of our information about Brendol Hux from the book Servants of the Empire: The Secret Academy by Jason Fry. Jason Fry has said that original versions of the book included a mention of a red haired baby (Hux) being attended to by a sinister nanny droid, and the scene was dropped because it seemed like a reference for reference sake, and added nothing to the actual story.
My question here is, if we consider this deleted scene, where is Hux’s mother? We don’t know who his mother is. She could very well be related to Palpatine. Or maybe Hux has no mother. Why would he, if he were one in a batch of clones? Further more, if he is not a clone, and in fact has a mother, what is to stop the writers from having his mother related to Palpatine? It would still fulfill the theory.
3) Hux is not force sensitive.
Ah, yes, this is a tough one. One would think a Palpatine clone would be pretty powerful, right? And Hux certainly is not Force sensitive to his or our knowledge.
Let’s consider possibilities that might lead to a lack of force sensitivity.
Hux could be a failed clone. What use is a non-force Emperor clone? He might not be what anyone hoped for, but hey, he still might be worth more to us alive than dead. So why not hand him off to a lowly Commandant? A Commandant, who has been attempting to convince the Empire that a Clone army is not efficient, who wants to implement a plan of conditioning children from birth? A Commandant who would love nothing more to prove his plan with a failed clone to prove a point?
We have already talked about how Hux is fanatically dedicated to the First Order, and certainly Brendol had something to do with that. We know that Hux was raised on stories of the Heroes of the old Empire, and taught about the inconsistent and disorderly rule of the New Republic—a rule that will only leads to chaos. In Hux’s mind, the First Order is meant to stabilize the galaxy (even if it means destroying a star system or two). One can argue that in effect, Hux is the first example of the Stormtrooper program. A prototype, if you will. He believes every bit of the propaganda he creates.
I now present to you an alternate scenario: Hux is latently force sensitive. He might not KNOW he is a clone. And in either scenario, I doubt Brendol would care to teach him much about the Force. I have already mentioned that Brendol is likely a major factor in convincing Hux that Force users are not adept at running the galaxy. The possibility of Hux being Force sensitive, without the spirituality or politics of the Force weighing him down, could end up being a distinct advantage during a coup de tat.
If Hux is any of these things, it would possibly be the reason that Hux feels he is destined to ‘Sit on the Throne of the Galaxy’. It is an interesting choice of phrasing. Emperor Hux may not be just a dream, but a legacy.
Now that we have looked at all the holes (there may be more but these are the big ones), I wish to bring up an alternate theory: Hux is not a clone of Palpatine, but rather an experiment in eugenics relating to the theory on force weaponry.
When my friend and I made our initial mental connection to the similarities of Hux to Rufus Shinra in Final Fantasy VII, we began examining the biological experimentations done in the game, namely Super Soldiers imbued with Mako energy.
We already know the Empire was using Kyber crystals and researching them. If the tank in the Rogue One Trailer contain biological specimens (clones or not), it is possible that not only were they making more powerful lasers and blasters—they may have even been creating a more powerful soldier.
Given that The Empire and the First Order are both heavily based on the Nazis of WW2, the idea that they would have been further experimenting with eugenics or other human experiments is not only reasonable, but likely. We don’t know what those experiments might entail, or who might have resulted from the process…
If super solders were in fact created, where are they now? Perhaps we have already met them.
…After all, what DO we know about the Knights of Ren?
The answer may lie in the Rogue One trailer.
Postulate 4: The Knight of Ren include members from the Rogue One Mission.
Wait, what?
Ok, hear us out.
My friend and I were talking about the characters in Rogue One. As we tend to do, we categorize people and make parallels between certain show to other things (as with the Hux and Shinra Comparison). On this particular conversation, my friend mentioned that the characters fell into certain fantasy archetypes: Jynn was like a Rogue, Forest Whittaker’s character was like a Warrior, and Donnie Yen’s was like a Monk.
I froze, then dug out my phone, and introduced him to the picture of the five Knights of Ren with Titles from the concept art. The Rogue, The Monk, and the Warrior were all there, with the extras of The Armory and The Heavy.
Ok, so, coincidence, right? The Knights of Ren are already kind of based on fantasy stuff. It’s cool. But then we noticed their body types. They definitely fit in with the types of characters we have seen in the Rogue One Trailer. Then I made an alternate connection: The promo photo that was released months ago had Five members of the Rogue One team in the foreground. (A 6th was arguably part of it, but he looked a little out of place to me—if someone knows for sure, let me know.)
And you know what really stands out? Donnie Yen and the Armory both carry the same type of staff.
Again…is this coincidence? Or is there something more?
Let’s be honest, we have no idea how Rogue One will turn out. All we know is that it’s going to be a nitty gritty war movie, front lines sort of thing. But if this mission was so important, so secret, and so dangerous—it’s entirely possible that not all these characters will be coming back from it. They could be killed, or go MIA.
And if they went MIA, what happened to them? Perhaps they became part of the very experiments that I believed could be happening on the Death Star. They could have been captured and enslaved, enhanced and trained—maybe even given mild Force sensitivity (as it is suggested the Knights of Ren are so). Aging could be slowed—cheating death has always been a Star Wars idea—allowing them to be in peak condition 35 years after their mission. Their minds may have been altered. WHO FUCKING KNOWS?
And finally, I submit to you the last bit of evidence, taken from Forest Whittaker’s lines in the Rogue One Trailer:
“What will you do when the Catch you?
What will you do if they Break you?
If you continue to fight, what will you Become?”
In Conclusion:
I think Hux is destined to at least try to overthrow Snoke. Watch out for him.
Hux may have ties to the original Death Star beyond simply being born around the time of it’s destruction.
The Death Star has research and development labs for both kyber crystal weapons and possible human test subjects.
Hux could be related to Palpatine in one way shape or form, but if not, he is possibly a separate experiment himself.
The Members of Rogue One might have been turned into the Knights of Ren, via torturous experiments and mind control.