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August W. Booth is Pinocchio

Journal Entry: Tue Apr 3, 2012, 3:14 PM


My thoughts on August W. Booth's identity (from Once Upon a Time)

August is Pinocchio.

I didn't come up with this on my own.  I saw a couple other people post that idea, and the more I think about it, the more it makes perfect sense. Here's the evidence:

1) If we take Gepetto's words in the pilot: "Me and my boy, we can do it." (in regards to making the magical wardrobe) then that means that Pinocchio was directly involved with the creation of it. Furthermore, How did Gepetto KNOW when he'd finished? There must have been a determined stopping point. You wouldn't just throw the supposed savior in there without knowing what would happen. Which brings me to point two.

2) Gepetto could have thrown Pinocchio into the wardrobe to test it. This would cause Pinocchio to be thrown into our world presumably at about the same time and place that Emma was thrown into. This idea stands up when you take a moment to recall that baby Emma was discovered by the side of the road by a 7 YEAR OLD BOY.

3) August says "Say what you want about me, but I never lie." Nose growing jokes aside, it works with Pinocchio's character.

4)  Remember: Gepetto says in the pilot episode that He and his wife tried for years to have a child, but it was not meant to be.  So, unless he is in a similar situation to Paige/Grace and living with another family, Pinocchio would have to be somewhere outside of Storybrooke. And given that Pinocchio would have spent the last 28 years in our world, outside of Storybrooke, in the same exact manner that Emma was, explains why he was able come to town like Emma did.

5) The fact he shows up after Emma's arrival in Storybrooke says something too. Since Pinocchio knew about the prophecy, he would have know to return in 28 years to help Emma.  Emma is probably in town for about a month before he shows up, but seeing as he's apparently never been to town, it might have taken him that long to track her down once he realized the 28th year mark was upon them.  On top of that, knowing the prophecy and likely much of the back information about the rest of the main fairytale cast's histories, he was in a fabulous position to be, as has been theorized, the author of the book. Spiffy, huh?

6) One person has suggested that his initials A.W.B. might also stand for A Wooden Boy.

7) Last bit: The Pinocchio episode coming up is called "The Stranger".

In short, I now believe that August is indeed Pinocchio AND the original writer of the book.

Although I still have a special place in my heart for my crack theory that he is Henry from the future. But I'll just keep that in a corner, for amusement. XD

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Xxxme23xxX Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012
It's pinocchio, I just watched the few episodes after the return and the episode directly after confirms it.
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FlukeOfFate Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah
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FlukeOfFate Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Not exactly a theory, but definitely a new IDEA.

What if Baelfire is Henry's father?

I know that Emma said Henry was best off not knowing his father, but it's highly possible that if Rumpel went mad with out his son, then Baelfire might have become a little mad without his father. I mean, c'mon: Bae wouldn't have had the benefit of 'replaced memories' with which he could use to deal with the new world. I Being place in one world from another is incredibly shocking, and even psychologically damaging. (also, it makes me think of what hilarity must have ensued when Gold and Regina woke up in our reality, since they basically remember both worlds...)
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blackdiamond1998 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I thought Baelfire, but now that I watched the Return I believe in Pinocchio.
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FlukeOfFate Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
OH. Random thought! HOLY CRAP. Seriously just thought of this.

It COULD be Baelfire IF:

Rumpelstiltskin sent Baelfire into our world FIRST. Probably by accident, really. It would explain WHY he made the curse in the first place! He would have developed it so he could see his son again! Only, he didn't want to be the one to pay the price for casting the curse, so he gave it t eh Evil Queen INSTEAD.

OO; Crazy. It's another simple answer!
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FlukeOfFate Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Boo-yah.
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heaven101fosho Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012
hmmmmm maybe but he can be baelfire cause when august develops a limp u know that baelfire have a problem with his knee and also august has rumples dagger plus, rumples i think gave his powers to him so that is why he is not affected my the curse cuz he's rumples flesh and blood. there is many theories though. OH! i heard that rumples wife is cora but it is just a theory.
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FlukeOfFate Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The Cora idea is cool, but I doubt it. I made an extensive timeline of events that disprove it. She's too young for it to be possible. Rumpel has been alive for at least perhaps 80 but probably more like 100 years. The key to this estimate comes from the Pinocchio story itself:

Rumpel gave Jiminy Cricket a potion (which ultimately turned Geppetto's parents to wooden dolls.) Geppetto was roughly 10 to 12 years old at the time. When the Queen enacted the curse, a good 50 yrs or so had passed, we know because Geppetto looked to be past 60 yrs old. Jiminy would not have aged in this time, because the of having been turned into a magic cricket (the Blue Fairy even stated that he would live long enough to help Geppetto till the end).

I estimate that Rumpel was between 35 and 45when he killed the Dark One. (The actor is in his 50s, so I'm being generous there.) Add the 50 yrs and he'd be between 85 and 95.

With that in mind: If Baelfire was born 14 years earlier, then add perhaps 38 years (up to Snow White being 8 yrs old at the time of the Daniel fiasco) that equals 52 years. Now, obviously Cora didn't give birth to Baelfire at age 0, so I'd ad at least another 15 (pretending Cora was 15 at the time of his birth) years before Baelfire's birth, which ups her age even more to 67. And all these calculations are assuming Rumpel gave the potion to Jiminy the same year he killed the Dark One (which I doubt that little time has elapsed). The woman that we saw was definitely not 67. Granted, she DOES use magic, and it might quell her aging somewhat--of course if it DID, then why wouldn't she make herself seem younger?--but it still seems off.

Baelfire would also have to be in his 70s by the time the curse was cast on top of that, and August is definitely not 70 yrs old...

Also, where has it ever been shown that Baelfire has a knee problem? He was never known to have a limp. Rumpel has a limp, true, but I think that it is implied that he got that from the war, and it was not a hereditary thing. I'm very confused about this because you are the second person who's said that. and I've watched the Baelfire episode a hundred times and there is no sign of a leg problem. That isn't to say I don't think there is something important about August's leg. I just don't think it has anything to do with Baelfire. If anything I think is had to do with the fact that he was once a Marionette puppet and had wooden joints. Maybe his wooden leg was cracked at one point?

The only way to get the Dark One's powers is to kill the dark one with the dagger. Rumpel is not dead. Therefore, Baelfire has not killed him and taken the powers. Just because he is his son does not magically make it possible to transfer powers. (Although, perhaps if Baelfire was CONCEIVED while Rumpel had magic, THEN I could see a transfer, but it's obviously not the case here.)

I DO believe Cora is the Miller's Daughter of Rumpelstiltskin lore, which explains how the Queen would know of Rumpelstiltskin in general.
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blackdiamond1998 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Holy Crap-someone who loves OUaT enough to calculate the timeline, and has a Star Trek Deep Space Nine quote in there tagline! I'm now going into shock.
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FlukeOfFate Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Both shows are utterly awesome. ^_^

...also, I have an entirely mapped out timeline written out on my computer.

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed of it!
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